Thomas Kirby
When Carole Baskin and Big Cat Rescue became known for trying to stop the trade in exotic cats as pets, some selfish people began slandering them.
From: wss_cat@yahoo.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it (Diane Roger)
Sent: 5/14/2008 7:50:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
Subj: More lies from Carole Lewis Baskin
Here is just another example of how Carole just makes things up as she goes along.
Here, she is throwing around a lot of innuendo about a gentleman named Thomas Kirby. Carole’s lies are at the bottom, so you may want to read that first.
Any time someone speaks against her, she makes up lies and puts them on her “animal abuser” list.
Did you read that stuff I sent you at www.rexano.org/bcr.htm ?
coricat00@aol.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it (Judy Watson) wrote:
To: wss_cat@yahoo.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it (Diane Roger)
Subject: Fwd: [REXANO] baskin after slowswimmer
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 18:01:12 -0400
From: coricat00@aol.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it (Judy Watson)
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From: Thomas Kirby < slowswimmer1@yahoo.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Sent: Tue, 13 May 2008 5:23 pm
She can keep on guessing. One clue: I have never been convicted of any crime in Georgia, so there is a “Thomas Kirby” that she can leave out. Unfortunately I am also not a surgeon qualified to do transplants who blew the whistle on shabby hospital practices. Or am I? I may or may not be an artist. I have never driven with alcohol in my system and I have never driven a boat, either. My criminal record is squeaky clean and so is my driving record, heavy duty knocking on wood on that last.
She’s telling the truth about what I say about animal rights activists, but, duh. That’s all a matter of public record.
If you want to read a “Spanish page of Yahoo”, go on to www.yahoo.es, then look at “my groups.”
Did Don Lewis come out in the lion shit or the tiger shit? I hope that I saved the bio that Baskin might have deleted, especially the part that made it obvious that she must have been Don Lewis’s “other woman” while he was still married to his former wife. I think we also know who has permanent neurological damage.
We read stuff like this to see just how loose the animal rights activists are. It looks like the geese were hitting the milk of Magnesia pretty hard this week. Thank you for posting this, Zuzana. It’s pretty funny ;> I don’t know if she’s lying, I’ve been convinced for a while that Baskin has simply lost her mind.
Posted at www.911AnimalAbuse.com
Thomas Kirby AKA slowswimmer
Thomas Kirby posted at Yahoo, that if money were no problem, “I would own lions and tigers and breed lions, tigers, and ligers.” You can read a lot of his posts at http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Phoenix_Ex otics / and he often posts tirades against what he calls ARA (Animal Rights Activists) saying that they are the enemy who are taking away all of his rights.
A recent post by Thomas Kirby tells you where he is coming from. This was posted on the Phoenix Exotics group on May 1, 2008: “No way on Earth will I support any anti-puppy mill bills. The goal of those bills is to put an end to breeding.”
Is this the same Thomas Kirby who was arrested in 2006 for leaving the scene of an accident where a 11 year old boy was run over by the boat he and his drunken friend Roger Guzman were allegedly driving?
An Internet search of Kirby’s handle slowswimmer1 dates back to 2006 and seems particularly unkind given that the boy who was run down while swimming is partially blind from the accident and has permanent neurological damage. A lot of people have the same names, but the articles surrounding the crime say that Thomas Kirby was 35 and an LA resident. Articles go on to say the men were Latino and Kirby’s post about wanting to breed lions and tigers was on a Spanish page of Yahoo. Maybe it is all coincidental, but if you know the truth, please post it here.
The article can be read at this link:
Big Cat Rescue ui-de nial-under-influence.html
Note from TheirVoice:
Big Cat Rescue has not lost any standing with The Association of Sanctuaries. They have always been an accredited rescue facility and have always said so.
As for the BBB, if you go to their website they say that Big Cat Rescue does not qualify for the seal because they posted letters their opposition sent to the BBB and that it was a violation of their standards to do so. Nothing in their standards said that, but it seems they chose to interpret it that way.
Evaluation Conclusions
Big Cat Rescue Corp (BCRC) does not meet the following Standard for Charity Accountability.
Standard 20 : Complaints – Respond promptly to and act on complaints brought to its attention by the BBB Wise Giving Alliance and/or local Better Business Bureaus about fund raising practices, privacy policy violations and/or other issues.
BCRC does not meet this standard because its response to three complaints brought to its attention by the BBB of West Florida was to post on its website links to copies of these complaints along with allegations that the complaints were “false.”
In the fall of 2007, BCRC distributed in Florida a flyer about upcoming public meetings being held by the Florida Wildlife Conservation Committee to discuss neighbor notification of exotic animal ownership. Shortly after the BCRC flyer was distributed, the BBB of West Florida, located in Clearwater, received written complaints alleging that the flyer threatened individuals, businesses and/or organizations that possessed such animals. BBB of West Florida forwarded three of the complaints to BCRC.
Upon receipt of the complaints, BCRC posted on its web site criticism of the three individuals alleging that each filed a “false” complaint with the BBB. In addition, BCRC posted links on its website to the complaints received from the BBB of West Florida.
The BBB Wise Giving Alliance informed BCRC that publicly identifying and criticizing individuals who complained about it to the BBB is not an appropriate way to respond to complaints, whatever their nature. BCRC subsequently removed from its web site the above mentioned criticism of the individuals as well as the links to the complaints received from the BBB.
Big Cat Rescue Corp (BCRC) meets the remaining 19 Standards for Charity Accountability.
